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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.28 17:05:00 -
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 Originally by: CCP Loxy
This is a try at being adaptable and expanding the tournament for the future. In the televised group stages you'll see the top 32 teams, play multiple times, these teams have proved themselves in the qualifiers to be capable and we should have a great show.
Very shoddy job this time, but hey there's always the ~future~, you know maybe we didn't want to see the top 32 teams play multiple times ? why add 2 extra matches there when you could've let more people take part instead ? f.i. two of the top 8 teams from last time that are alternates instead of taking part. ~bitter~
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These two weekends are the qualifiers, where we trim the poor teams from the ones with serious ambition. While there are bound to be some good fights here they won't be as good as the group stages, neither has been our coverage in the past which is why we are no longer streaming this part.
They won't be as good ? Says who ? It's an entirely different format and very interesting since it's been years since the last 5v5 matches in a tournament..
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In my view the Tournament starts on the 11th with the group stages and the top 32 teams. We can not cover 4 weeks solid of the tournament, nor would a majority of EVE players want to get drowned in news of the tournament for four straight weeks, and in the future if we expand to bring in 128 teams and we have to run the tournament over 6 weeks or more we'll do the same again.
The majority of eve players would actually want that, you're completely out of touch and your opinion is not shared by the participants nor the audience.
I can understand CCP not wanting to spend money, but you didn't actually need to since there's no shortage of people willing to volunteer to fraps it for you, you (CCP) just didn't bother organizing it.
This was suggested weeks ago (and again in this thread) and completely ignored.
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I know this is disappointing now, but we feel this is the best option for the tournament. We're increasing the full coverage from one weekend to two, and to compensate we're dropping the rather poor coverage of the unimportant rounds. When you settle in to watch the group stages and finals I'm sure you'll appreciate the decision.
Might be acceptable if you had enough "unimportant" rounds for the 40+ teams that didn't make it in, but no you weren't prepared for people to actually want to take part. (or for people to want to actually watch it??)
AT9 has been the worst organized and prepared tournament to date, maybe CCP should try giving the tournament some tiny fraction of the preparation and money spent on fanfest.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.29 03:04:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 29/05/2011 03:08:07
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
That's the issue, we'd still be sanctioning it if we had them on grid with camera accounts. I'm thrilled that teams are taking it on themselves, but apart from allowing players to film the fights, there's not much we can do.
Wow i love you and all soundwave but the ~big corporate attitude~ you're presenting here is incredibly pathetic, stupid and counter-productive.
Seriously you think letting volunteers come into the arena and record matches would degrade ~your precious image~ ????
Buhu, some random imaginary idiots might think it's CCP that is providing a substandard stream and that it's not just volunteers frapsing and uploading WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA what a horrific blow to your ~image~ that would be.
If you think completely neglecting and pretty much actively preventing people from watching nearly half of the matches is better for CCP or the tournament then you must not have been paying attention to your audience and customer base's reaction to this year's tourney team's poorly implemented and thought out new ideas.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.29 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 29/05/2011 16:49:25
Mindstar, Sreegs and Zirnitra are responsible, not Soundwave - he's just a pretty face
and of course higherups in CCP for not giving the tourney any funding or priority whatsoever
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.30 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 30/05/2011 17:44:22
very few teams streamed their matches
kudos to those who did, but i'd be surprised if more than maybe 1/5th of the matches got recorded (with fraps or otherwise)
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.04 02:34:00 -
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Yeah Loxy's cool, mindstar used to be cool, but has been absolutely awful when it comes to AT9, alcohol poisoning is to blame I suspect.
Newbie dev seems harmless, darius johnson is darius johnson, stoffer is just a pretty face and blameless, sunset is not a worthy successor to stevie.
Hopefully the awesome cast of experts will live up to my expectations.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.04 09:44:00 -
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No I sound like a kid who earned a bike but then got didn't get one due to the organizers lack of adaptability, preparation and stupid format/rule changes.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.04 14:32:00 -
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I was talking about stuff like the banning rule, 40-50 teams not being let take part, including two of the quarter finalists from last time (due to removal of top 16 from previous tournament guaranteed spot rule)
devs saying they didn't ~have time~ to change things to accommodate the amount of interest in taking part.
Meanwhile they added 2 more pointless fights in the bracket system, while declining to let volunteers come record and upload the matches "because of quality concerns" they prefer zero coverage and decided incorrectly that we do too.
Leaving a loophole open that anyone can abuse in the second round of pre-qualifiers to guarantee advancing even if you lost your first match with no kills, despite players pointing it out to them repeatedly (no minimum points fielded)
CCP's apparently giving the tournament so little priority and funding that devs have to volunteer their time for it to take place at all
But yeah clearly I'm a spoiled brat and just imagining things, just like you're not a blind fanboy.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.05 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Xterea
Letting volunteers simply stream fights, or provide basic commentary would not draw in tonnes of audience numbers, and would still need the oversight of at least one member of CCP.
Seriously ? We're talking about a tiny amount of extra effort teleporting the volunteers to the field, they don't even need to be able to lock the people competing..
This staggering amount of extra work could be done by a single GM who would already be present on the field.
(If CCP wanted to really go nuts they could let the volunteers use their special client that lets them lock 10 ships and cloak, dunno if that's something they'd be allowed to trust randoms with)
But noooo, quality concerns and according to Loxy nobody cares about the pre-quals anyway~~~~~
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.06 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xterea
Do you think that these volunteers would be able to assemble media to cover the breaks between matches, provide well-structured studio coverage, and also provide well-informed commentary?
Yeah like we need a studio or coverage between matches ? You think anyone cares about that ?
The pew pew is what matters, well informed commentary in addition wouldn't hurt but that's something literally thousands of people would be easily capable of providing.
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